This blog is the personal voice of HMF. HMF was a regular poster on the site sepiaMutiny (www.sepiamutiny.com) but was subsequently banned (then unbanned, then banned, then unbanned then banned again) for reasons only made moderately clear.
Tuesday, October 28, 2008
What makes a female emotion more protectable, guardable, or valuable to its owner than a male one?
Answer that question. Because insisting that men always approach or put themselves on the line, is basically believing that female emotions are more valuable to their owner than male ones.
23 comments:
Anonymous
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HMF, are you unaware of the "scientific data" out there that "proves" that women are more "emotional" and "in touch" with their emotions than men? If it's true, then perhaps THAT is the answer to your question.
Anyway, fret not. How old are you and where do you live? I might have a girl for you.....
I don't understand. you put those terms in quotes? I can't tell are you saying that such data exists?
As for women being "more emotional" lets say its true. But what does that mean? are you saying men have less emotions? feel less pain when rejected? I doubt that highly. And in fact, I'd like you to point me to any scientific data that can prove that.
It's as scientific as me saying there is data out there that shows men are more equipped for work and women are built to submit and do more domestic duties.
again, lets say its true.. that women have a tougher time controlling their emotion. (if that is what you're saying, let me know if I'm mischaracterizing) then wouldnt it make sense to bar women from positions (such as mgmt, or presidential positions) that require a better grasp and control of one's emotions? yet if I suggest that, Im a sexist or misogynist.
Age and location coz maybe I know someone around your age and in your location who I can set you up with. She'll pay for the date if it's cheap, if it's not, half/half.
I spent nearly a decade paying for girl's shit with little recourse. technically I should have 10 years of dates paid for me, if there's any justice in the world, since there isn't. I'll just settle for half/half.
It doesn't matter what you look like. But personality DOES matter. I hope you know how to behave like a cultured gentleman in person and not take all your pent up frustrations out on a single unsuspecting woman.
well has this single unsuspecting woman read this blog? and decided to not take the easy way out and label me as a 'woman-hater' or whatever other bullshit?
And please dont tell me looks don't matter. myself and countless other guys have been repeatedly rejected on none other than looks.
"I hope you know how to behave like a cultured gentleman in person and not take all your pent up frustrations out on a single unsuspecting woman."
If that's your risk, then why follow this line in the first place? What makes you think this person would be able to withstand my analyses, what you're ascribing as "pent up frustrations"?
Because she's always contributed financially to her dates and that's your big hang-up. So as long as you are moderately attractive, as is she, there should be no issue.
my big hang up is women that clamor for equality in one sphere, but put it down in other spheres. and yet don't see the contradiction in that type of behavior.
expecting male payment is just a single instance of that upper level behavior.
You still have yet to answer my question. If women are indeed more emotional, shouldn't they be prevented from taking professional positions that require leadership, maintaining a cool head and emotional maturity?
"You still have yet to answer my question. If women are indeed more emotional, shouldn't they be prevented from taking professional positions that require leadership, maintaining a cool head and emotional maturity?"
If they are indeed more emotional that might be considered, right?
Regarding "emotional maturity" if by that you mean "emotional intelligence", then according to "research" and "data" women may be ahead of the game thus positions requiring "emotional maturity i.e. emotional intelligence" would best be reserved for them.
Anyway, your passing up a good oppurtunity here HMF.....
"If they are indeed more emotional that might be considered, right?"
that was your contention here:
"HMF, are you unaware of the "scientific data" out there that "proves" that women are more "emotional" and "in touch" with their emotions than men?"
so are you agreeing with me?
"ahead of the game thus positions requiring "emotional maturity i.e. emotional intelligence" would best be reserved for them."
how can you say that if they are more 'emotional' as you stated in the very first post. Being emotional is the antithesis of having emotional maturity. So make your pick, emotional or emotionally mature?
As for being in touch with your emotions, doing so for a man makes him less "manly" as men are supposed to be tough, tight-lipped, and stoic. Yet women don't care for men who are in touch with their emotions, even though they say they do.
"Anyway, your passing up a good oppurtunity here HMF...."
This might be my last post here because we seem to be going around in circles. When I do this "..." around a word, it means I'm being a little facitious or I don't neccessarily agree with the point being made.
I don't know if women are more emotional than men or have greater EIQ, emotional intelligence qoutient.
I read stuff like that. Maybe it's pseudo-scientific though.
I also read that women produce more oxytocin in their brains during and after sex and that is why they equate sex to "love" or other strong bonding emotions, than men do.
IF it is true, then perhaps that is why women are more self-protective around the issue of sex and when they have it. Maybe not.
I do know some women swingers who love to have no-strings-attached sex with several different men. And I also know alot of men who crave commitment and long-term monogamous relationships.
I think at this point in history (in the West at least) BOTH are availabe to both sexes so we are all now able to CHOOSE which way to go.
"When I do this "..." around a word, it means I'm being a little facitious or I don't neccessarily agree with the point being made."
Which is exactly what I asked in my first response. gosh reading really goes a long way doesn't it?
So it seems you really don't have an answer, other than 'thats the way it is" and I've pointed out yet again another providence in which women are granted privileges. as their emotions are considered more valuable than male ones.
"I don't know if women are more emotional than men or have greater EIQ, emotional intelligence qoutient. "
ok, then you really don't have an answer to the underlying question. As I see it, men just get the shaft as we are forced to not be as emotional, because if we do, due to the repeated rejection most of us feel, we'd go crazy and kill ourselves.
"I also read that women produce more oxytocin in their brains during and after sex and that is why they equate sex to "love" or other strong bonding emotions, than men do. "
I think its more social. Men are forced to devalue the emotional component of sex, becuse we've been devaluing the emotional component of EVERTHING ELSE. When I approach a girl, the best attitude for me to have is, "I dont care whether this girl likes me or not" ie invest no emotion, because then in the event of rejection, there's no pain.
23 comments:
HMF, are you unaware of the "scientific data" out there that "proves" that women are more "emotional" and "in touch" with their emotions than men? If it's true, then perhaps THAT is the answer to your question.
Anyway, fret not. How old are you and where do you live? I might have a girl for you.....
I don't understand. you put those terms in quotes? I can't tell are you saying that such data exists?
As for women being "more emotional" lets say its true. But what does that mean? are you saying men have less emotions? feel less pain when rejected? I doubt that highly. And in fact, I'd like you to point me to any scientific data that can prove that.
It's as scientific as me saying there is data out there that shows men are more equipped for work and women are built to submit and do more domestic duties.
again, lets say its true.. that women have a tougher time controlling their emotion. (if that is what you're saying, let me know if I'm mischaracterizing) then wouldnt it make sense to bar women from positions (such as mgmt, or presidential positions) that require a better grasp and control of one's emotions? yet if I suggest that, Im a sexist or misogynist.
"Anyway, fret not. How old are you and where do you live? I might have a girl for you.."
Hah. has she read this blog?
Answer my questions first.
Age?
Location?
Answer my questions first.
Age?
Location?
Ther's no logic to your inquiry...
No logic?
Age and location coz maybe I know someone around your age and in your location who I can set you up with. She'll pay for the date if it's cheap, if it's not, half/half.
You can handle half/half, right?
you dont know me, you don't know what I look like, you don't know what I do. all you know of me is what I post here.
unless you already know me and are putting 2 and 2 together.
which means you already know the pieces of information you're asking me about.
If its that important, why not tell me their age/location ?
"You can handle half/half, right?"
I spent nearly a decade paying for girl's shit with little recourse. technically I should have 10 years of dates paid for me, if there's any justice in the world, since there isn't. I'll just settle for half/half.
It doesn't matter what you look like. But personality DOES matter. I hope you know how to behave like a cultured gentleman in person and not take all your pent up frustrations out on a single unsuspecting woman.
well has this single unsuspecting woman read this blog? and decided to not take the easy way out and label me as a 'woman-hater' or whatever other bullshit?
And please dont tell me looks don't matter. myself and countless other guys have been repeatedly rejected on none other than looks.
"I hope you know how to behave like a cultured gentleman in person and not take all your pent up frustrations out on a single unsuspecting woman."
If that's your risk, then why follow this line in the first place? What makes you think this person would be able to withstand my analyses, what you're ascribing as "pent up frustrations"?
Because she's always contributed financially to her dates and that's your big hang-up. So as long as you are moderately attractive, as is she, there should be no issue.
my big hang up is women that clamor for equality in one sphere, but put it down in other spheres. and yet don't see the contradiction in that type of behavior.
expecting male payment is just a single instance of that upper level behavior.
As for being moderatly attractive, I can't judge, all I know is, it's not as unimportant as you say.
You still have yet to answer my question. If women are indeed more emotional, shouldn't they be prevented from taking professional positions that require leadership, maintaining a cool head and emotional maturity?
C'mon. You know if you are moderately good looking or not. We all know if we are or not.
It's a moot point anyway, shanti has seemed to have dropped the issue. and further evading my question from above.
"You still have yet to answer my question. If women are indeed more emotional, shouldn't they be prevented from taking professional positions that require leadership, maintaining a cool head and emotional maturity?"
If they are indeed more emotional that might be considered, right?
Regarding "emotional maturity" if by that you mean "emotional intelligence", then according to "research" and "data" women may be ahead of the game thus positions requiring "emotional maturity i.e. emotional intelligence" would best be reserved for them.
Anyway, your passing up a good oppurtunity here HMF.....
"If they are indeed more emotional that might be considered, right?"
that was your contention here:
"HMF, are you unaware of the "scientific data" out there that "proves" that women are more "emotional" and "in touch" with their emotions than men?"
so are you agreeing with me?
"ahead of the game thus positions requiring "emotional maturity i.e. emotional intelligence" would best be reserved for them."
how can you say that if they are more 'emotional' as you stated in the very first post. Being emotional is the antithesis of having emotional maturity. So make your pick, emotional or emotionally mature?
As for being in touch with your emotions, doing so for a man makes him less "manly" as men are supposed to be tough, tight-lipped, and stoic. Yet women don't care for men who are in touch with their emotions, even though they say they do.
"Anyway, your passing up a good oppurtunity here HMF...."
Send me a pic and i'll think about it.
This might be my last post here because we seem to be going around in circles. When I do this "..." around a word, it means I'm being a little facitious or I don't neccessarily agree with the point being made.
I don't know if women are more emotional than men or have greater EIQ, emotional intelligence qoutient.
I read stuff like that. Maybe it's pseudo-scientific though.
I also read that women produce more oxytocin in their brains during and after sex and that is why they equate sex to "love" or other strong bonding emotions, than men do.
IF it is true, then perhaps that is why women are more self-protective around the issue of sex and when they have it. Maybe not.
I do know some women swingers who love to have no-strings-attached sex with several different men. And I also know alot of men who crave commitment and long-term monogamous relationships.
I think at this point in history (in the West at least) BOTH are availabe to both sexes so we are all now able to CHOOSE which way to go.
"When I do this "..." around a word, it means I'm being a little facitious or I don't neccessarily agree with the point being made."
Which is exactly what I asked in my first response. gosh reading really goes a long way doesn't it?
So it seems you really don't have an answer, other than 'thats the way it is" and I've pointed out yet again another providence in which women are granted privileges. as their emotions are considered more valuable than male ones.
"I don't know if women are more emotional than men or have greater EIQ, emotional intelligence qoutient. "
ok, then you really don't have an answer to the underlying question. As I see it, men just get the shaft as we are forced to not be as emotional, because if we do, due to the repeated rejection most of us feel, we'd go crazy and kill ourselves.
"I also read that women produce more oxytocin in their brains during and after sex and that is why they equate sex to "love" or other strong bonding emotions, than men do. "
I think its more social. Men are forced to devalue the emotional component of sex, becuse we've been devaluing the emotional component of EVERTHING ELSE. When I approach a girl, the best attitude for me to have is, "I dont care whether this girl likes me or not" ie invest no emotion, because then in the event of rejection, there's no pain.
So we're forced again to do the same with sex.
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